About The Official Sallie House Website

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The Sallie House haunting has been in a class by itself simply by the conditions that seem to exist. There have been, full-bodied apparitions, and objects flying through the air. Items have moved been misplaced or lost only to reappear or show up later or at another location.

Phantom furniture has been heard along with thumps, thuds, knocks, scratching in the walls and the sound of animals and human voices. Although some voices have been heard with the naked ear, there has been an amazing amount of EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomena) captured further depicting the voices of men, women and children.

Many have experienced extreme smells and on occasion seen full-bodied apparitions. Lastly, and likely most famously, there has been physical harm to the occupants and investigators in the form of scratches, burns and cuts. Although the majority of these attacks have often been centered on Tony himself, there have been a few others who have also been the focus of the physical harassment.
Tony and Debra 1994

Investigations into this house continue, but was initially investigated by the television show Sightings back when Tony and Debra Pickman lived there with their newborn son. Numerous psychics have entered the picture in order to help us along the way and they include Barbara Conner and world renowned, Peter James who has worked on the haunting of the Queen Mary for many years. Paramount Pictures created a made-for-TV movie titled the Heartland Ghost, which depicted the story of Sallie and the Pickmans experiences. The Pickman’s experiences have been document on television since 1993 on a variety of TV series such as the Travel channel’s, Most haunted Town,  KQ2 news out of St. Joseph, Mo, Unexplained Mysteries, and Channel 4 news out of Kansas City, KS, have all been involved in documenting this story since 1993.    More recently our story was told by Discovery Channel’s, A HauntingBiography Channel’s, My Ghost Story, then again with the Travel Channel. This time with the Ghost Adventurers.

Some believe that what exists in the house is evil, some believe that the entities within the house are reaching out and in need of our help, some believe that Tony is doing it all himself (which doesn’t seem like a viable assessment when the activity continues without his presence). Some believe there is much more going on there than we can imagine, and yet others think its all been a hoax.

A multitude of monitoring equipment has been utilized to help determine what is causing the strange occurrences in this small little house on the bluffs of the Missouri River. The equipment includes, but is in no way limited to digital and analog voice recorders, infrared and heat sensitive video cameras; electromagnetic meters etc .

Many investigative groups have used dousing rods, crystals and pendulums, and some have tried to set up controlled ESP situations to experiment with more possibilities. Since the activity seems to be so constant, some groups, very dedicated to learning more about the paranormal, have used the house as an experimental laboratory and have obtained some remarkable evidence not only expanding on the history of the house but also furthering the study of paranormal.

Okl hillWhat started out as the simple haunting, of one little girl named Sallie, has seemingly developed into a growing list of more than just that. Some think that over the years more entities have come to resided with the walls of this houses. Do they just visit, do they call the place home or has it become a doorway to the other side where the spirits we encounter move on after their visit?

The commonality, of all the investigations and the investigators involved or associated with this house, is that we are all curious about the who, what, and why of the house and its occupants. Who is there, when did they live, what do they want, why have they stayed behind, is there something they need to share with us, and what would that be? How is it that spirits or ghosts are able to move objects, show us their likenesses, and speak to us? These are just some of the questions that come to mind and in which we all seek answers to.

Most of the human race has an innate human curiosity about events they cannot explain. The scientific and logical principles we currently employee have not yet been able to explain many of the nuance’s attached to hauntings, and paranormal investigators have an overwhelming desire to do just that.

We study them to understand these events. Each investigation gets us closer to the truth and its in the sharing evidence and theories of all those who are interested or involved, that we learn more about this and other hauntings. For the reasons stated above, this site was Co-Founded by five individuals: Tony and Debra Pickman, Renae Leiker, and Jennifer and Jerry Talbert of The Kansas Paranormal Group. Tony and Debra Pickman are currently  the only active founders.

We have always take pride in knowing that this website will provide the best resource on the world wide web for factual representation of the events, activities and experiences that this haunting, known by many as The Sallie House, has provided. It is also why we ask for your help and your input so that we can continue to provide current information.

The website is currently going through a reorganization, but rest assured that all information will continue to be as relevant to the Sallie House as you have grown accustomed to. We are just changing the format. The site will now be searchable which will be very helpful if you are looking for something in particular.  We will also have categories in place which should handy as well.

A good portion of this website is dedicated not only our experiences but also to televised investigations done by TV series like Sightings and Ghost Adventurers. You will also find photos, and an EVP gallery as well as recordings of many Radio Interviews  that Tony and I have done over the years. We hope to bring you interesting and informative articles that will fund your mind with new ideas and theories about this case, and for those who work in the paranormal field, allow additional insights to working your own cases.

We want you to enjoy your time here and have firsthand knowledge and an ability to contribute to the ongoing research of the  Sallie House. We hope you will join us in our collective efforts to continuously work to provide the most factual and authoritative information on this haunting.

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152 Comments

  1. This is gonna sound a little crazy…I don’t even know of your house until I moved into this one and well it said Sallie house. It said my daughters name nanna..she won’t sleep upstairs! It said yellow vanguard picture???? I don’t understand..how could this be linked to u? I’m in Indianapolis Indiana in a house I’ve had for thirty days! Someone help me out here..why does it want me to contact u???

    • Hello Wanda,

      At this Point I’m just as confused as you. Do you know any of the history of the house? What did the voice sound like: male or female, did you have a positive or negative feeling about it? Does anyone else here this? How old is your daughter and I she hear them as well, or perhaps even see them?

      Should you want to talk more privately feel free to e-mail me at debra@thesalliehouse.com.

      ~Debra

  2. Hi Debra. I have been following your story since it was first aired on Sightings. Subsequently on Paranormal Witness and Ghost Adventures + Aftershocks. It is a real shame you all had to leave the house due to the Entity living in your home. I assume the house is still vacant? Anyhow. All the best to you both in the future and hopefully you can find closure to what has happened.

    • Hello Ian,

      Thank you very much for your comments and support. You are correct and that the house remains empty. However the owner still does allow, via up the local chamber of commerce, self guided tours and overnight investigations. Unfortunately this is potentially a very dangerous situation for those who go to the house. We sincerely pray for those who go in without knowing what they’re getting themselves into.

      ~ Debra

  3. Hi Debra,

    I just got done watching the paranormal witness episode The harpy. My daughter has grown a liking to watch paranormal shows with me but this one I made her wait a few years to watch. A question she wanted to ask why did you keep taylor in the room with “sallie” when you found out that she was there?
    My question is there are a ton of similarities I noticed of your story and the movie the conjuring child spirits multiple entities physical harm did you ever watch the conjuring and what was your take on it.

    Emily and Chris

    • Hello Emily and Chris,

      My answer to your daughter’s question is because it was inferred, by the first psychic that visited the house, that Sallie was there to protect the baby; that she wouldn’t do anything to harm him. We thought this to be true as well because of the following:

      Very early on, and in fact the day after that bears had been arranged and a circle up in the nursery by the spirit who was eventually named Sallie, Tony and his brother had an experience in the living room. In a really freaked them out and we were in the process of packing the baby’s things to get out of there for the day. We’re all very anxious to leave the house.

      Tony put the car seat on the couch was putting the baby in his car seat. The baby started fussing in crawling as Tony was buckling him in. He suddenly felt what he thought was a bee sting on his back. Not wanting to waste a minute to deal with it he just figured he would look at it when we got to his parents’ house.

      When we did arrive as parents house and lifted his shirt where he had felt the bee sting and was so shocked my whole life help flush in my knees and weakened. I almost fell to the floor. Tony had three long scratches down the center of his lower back. I’d say they were better 6 inches long.

      On another note, yes, we watched the conjuring the night it was first released. I can remember Tony sitting next to me in commenting throughout the movie, sort of under his breath,” that happened to me”,” and that happen to me”.

      It was sort of one of those moments for him in which you realize how much and actually happened while living in that house. When you have something like that happen to you all you can think about is getting to through that day. The next day you worry about that day, and so on.

      Thanks for dropping by and for your questions. I hope I answer them for you.

      ~ Debra

  4. I listen to a nightly radio show called Coast To Coast AM with George Noory, i think this story would make a great show and you a great guest. I think his audience would love hearing about this very interesting and spooky case, this house sounds just as scary as the Viscilla Axe Murder House, The Entity House, Lizzy Bordon House and Amityville Horror that have all been talked about on his show, thank you for reading.

    • Hello Michael,

      Thank you for the suggestion, and yes we were on coast to coast and several years ago. We are hoping to do another show with them again soon.

      Interesting factoids….

      Did you know that the Sallie house and the Vallisca Ax Murder House have the same address?

      This spirit materialization that Tony saw at the end of the bed one day looked exactly like the neighbor who found them more family and the two young girls slain in the house.

      How’s that for creepy coincidence.

      ~ Debra

  5. Hi Debra

    I have just watched the episode on Paranormal witness and think I will find it difficult to sleep tonight and I am in Sydney Australia.

    I just had a few questions & hoping you’d be kind enough to respond.

    Why did you stay as long as you did when Tony was being physically injured?
    I was constantly thinking “why would you stay?”

    Were you ever scared while being in the house alone?

    Was your son in the house with you all the time?
    Toward the end of the epidode the baby wasn’t seen so was wondering if you had removed him from the house for his safety.

    Have you ever returned to the house since moving out?
    If so how often/ long?

    Is your book able to be purchased in Australia?

    Apologies if you have answered these questions previously.

    Thank you for your time

    Nicole

    • Hello Nicole,
      Glad you stopped in and very happy to answer your questions. Tony and I and I were newlyweds and had just sell all their money into moving into the new house. Even though it was a rental we still had to buy curtains and other home essentials not to mention the expense of renting and truck and such. Additionally, we were expecting their first child and there were even more expenses for him. We were pretty well tapped out. Moving in just didn’t seem like an option for us.

      I was never really scared in the house alone because nothing bad ever happened to me. As far as my son being in the house with me all the time, I can say that is true. I’m sure that there were times that the baby was with Tony and I was home.

      You are very perceptive, I noticed too that the baby was not with this tour of the end of the paranormal witness episode. It was like we just got rid of him or something. LOL the fact is, we always kept him fairly close.

      I returned to the house several times over the course of several years and several paranormal investigative teams. I wanted more answers and felt that if I went with people who were more experience in the paranormal I might get them. Tony avoided the house for 10 years and then with a certain paranormal group he felt comfortable enough to go in with them. After that we investigated the house with them several times over the next year and 1/2.

      As far as the book being available in Australia, I’m really not sure. I have checked to see what it would cost to personally send you a book and unfortunately that’s going to be about $25.00. I do know that it’s available as Ebook, so maybe that’s an option for you.

      I thank you for your interest in two questions Nicole, and I hope you have a wonderful day.

      ~ Debra

  6. Hi Deb! Eric Enzbrenner with Atchison Pararnormal here. Love the site! Great to finally see some GOOD information regarding the history and the paranormal facts of the house. I have been in the home numerous time to give tours, host investigations or do conduct investigations on my own. I absolutely hate it when teams come in and totally disrespect the space. No research is done at all and they would rather entertain than conduct a valid investigation and learn more about the “in-between.” Just dropping by to say keep up the good work! We will be branching out to investigate homes in Atchison that have never been investigated before so keep an eye out for us! Take care!!!

    • Hi Eric,

      Good to hear from you and thank you for the support. There is much to do here on the site, so much information I need to get back up! If there is anything you are specifically interested in let me know, I will find a way to get it to you. We could even meet up with you and a few team members should you be interested, but would prefer doing so BEFORE an investigation. The possibilities of having to deal with attachments are too great otherwise.

      I will keep an eye on AtchisonParanormal’s FB page. I offer you and your team blessing as well as wishes for everyone’s safety. I’m sure everyone in the field appreciates you holding to an ethical
      and respectful investigation protocol.

      ~Debra

      • Hanna Singletary

        Hi Debra I’m watching the Sallie house episode right now and just by watching it is really creepy. I have had experiences with the paranormal but nothing like you and your husband experienced it. I went to a school in Worth County Georgia and it was haunted it’s demolished now but I’m 20 now I was in 4th grade and using the bathroom and something called my name and grabbed my ankle I was scared out of my mind. What were your thoughts when “Sallie” was affecting tony?

        • Actually Hanna,I was in awe that she was physically trying to get his attention. I was also jealous that she was seen by him too. Lastly I thought he was sleep deprived and to some extent, his mind was making things up. With that said, I was not my normal self.I was not concerned to the level I should have been and red flags didn’t go up when they should have. The scientific and logical side of me didn’t ask questions, or set up traps to catch activity.

          That was a good question.

          ~Debra

  7. hello I have recently watched an episode of ghost adventures and learned about the house you once lived in. It was my curiosity to read a little on your website and came across some scary information about the place. I see that there is no information about your son was just wondering if he was bothered by anything or even how he is to this day? Im sure for security reasons you wouldn’t involve him in anything but I just wanted to know if he’s ok.

    • Hello Tris,

      Our oldest son was born in the house six months after we moved in. He was just over a year old when we moved out. With a child so young who does not yet speak its difficult to know for sure if the house had any effect on him.

      I do know that there were times that he clung to my husband or I as we walked up the stairs to lay him down to bed. This could have been one of the developmental stages and separation anxiety that a child goes through or could mean that he was frightened by something in his room. When he seemed frightened we did not leave them in the room alone.

      He’s much older now and reports remembering nothing from the time we lived in the house. He is intelligent in compassionate, did well in school and this year will be graduating with a master’s degree from a local university.

      Thank you for your concern in taking the time of your day to leave a comment here.

      ~ Debra

  8. Hey Mrs. Pickman!
    My Dad has recently visited this place. We were on vacation and we stopped at the house because it looked familiar. We looked it up and It was the sallie house. I was too scared to go inside. But my dad went in. When He got inside he said that it felt lonely inside. He took a tour, of cores. He came back ouside and was quiet for two hours then. Snapped out of whatever he was in and humorously said. “Hey Mariah! How was your day”? I knew there had to be something in that house that bothered my dad.

    My dad also lived out in a house in california with his brothers and sister. The landlord had told them that he house was built on a indian buarial ground. so there has been things following him and his sisters FOREVER.
    For example a couple months ago, Our dogs started acting strange. and they kept barking at our attic door. I told my dad. and he opened the door. And feel backwards and fainted. I saw nothing. But what could this mean?

    Sorry For the long message/story
    -mariah

    • Hello Maria,

      I think that since your dad by has lived in some spirit heavy environments he may have somewhat of an unknown connection with them, meaning that they interact with and around him more than they would someone else.

      Thank you for sharing.

      ~ Debra

  9. so i have a quick question and that question is what happened to Sallie and her parents because i was trying to find information about this and it dosent talk about how sallie and her parents died because im confused about that.

    • Hi James,

      Good to hear from you.

      As far as our own research and that of others, many of whom specialize in ancestry records, we have not been able to find records for Sallie. The only Sallie that is recorded in Town is a Sallie Hall, however she was about 23 when she died.

      With that said we believe that the Sallie presence we and others encountered was a manifestation of a dark entity trying to hide it’s true form and intent. Basically you can say that it hid behind a little girl in order to gain our acceptance. Because Tony didn’t accept it at face value, it got angry. That’s when we notice things going really .bad.

      • Hey my name is Ben I’m a teen but my dream is to investigate this kinda stuff when I was 6 I have a very bad paranormal experience I had scratchs and pictures turned up side down I saw horrible demonic figures and made contact with one that most people would of heared of its name was zozo but I have a question does a paranormal team still live in the house they have a huge YouTube channel called livescifi

        • Hi Ben,

          You are a brave sort aren’t you? Interesting that your experiences didn’t scare you away from the paranormal. You must be some level of a sensitive. Do you still see things like this?

          As far as your interest in the paranormal goes, take it slow and learn all you can before you get involved. Follow people like Bishop James long, Demonologist John Zaffis, Listen to web radio shows who have great guests on like Dave Schrader on Darkness Radio, and other people in the field like Tim Shaw, nick Groff, Chris Dedman, Dave Considine, Christopher Saint Booth and books by people like Larry Wilson.

          In doing this you will learn about the field and be able to hone your values on how you perceive paranormal encounters. Then you can start looking for a group to apprentice with.

          Regarding the Sallie House, No, the Live SciFi group does NOT live in the house, nor have they ever. That group is not really what it seems to be. They are not honest about things, and they do not go into the house to study it or do research. They are actually very dangerous, because they put the thrill of an extreme experience come before the safety of their team and others. They challenge, taunt and provoke without regard to the fact that when they do this, Tony and I are affected in our current home

          They know this and still they continue to do so. The group is out to make money and gain fame. I don’t want to point out specific situations of falsehoods that they put out there because I don’t want to promote more of an internet war between us. He has basically called us liars and he has banned me and several family and friends from his chat rooms for just saying hi or sharing knowledge about the house. I know they are popular with people interested (but not experienced) in the paranormal, and I truly hope you can see through their antics and claims.

          Be Smart and Be Safe,
          ~Debra

          • Hello, Debra. Yeah, I just watched a video by Live SciFi and it was ridiculous. So are you saying entities followed you to your new home?

          • Spirits like this, in a way follow you. There seems to be a definite attachment that remains with hauntings like this; no matter where you go.

            ~Debra

          • Hi there I felt as a member of Livescifi I needed to respectfully respond. I became interested in the Sallie house thru your website here as I live in Kansas. To state that we are not honest and we don’t go in to study and research is just purely wrong. When we investigate we stay at the house, have never lived there for more than 3-4 days at a time. A lot of the time off the live shows are spent researching and more researching., and studying. How do you know that we do or don’t do these things? I would never make such a blanket claim about you because I do not know what you do in your life when not on camera. To say that we are dangerous is quite wrong. I would submit that there are people who have gone in and done things to further the malevolent entity there but we aren’t one of them. Our members take this very seriously as well as our own protection. I’m sorry that you and tony are affected by the visits to the house but that is because you are tied in some way to the house. The current owner is who you should be looking at if you are being affected when people investigate there ask him to stop letting groups thru! As far as making money and gaining fame, that’s just a low blow coming from you particularity who have a book, a website, do interviews, etc. the Sallie house is one of many places we investigate and yes we have our own style. We’ve been around for a while and if we wanted money and fame then we’ve obviously missed the boat. We do what we do and how we do it because it’s a passion and we are compelled to try to get proof from the other side. Our viewers are with us because they like us and we greatly appreciate them. There is not and never been to my knowledge an “internet war” between us and you labeling a discussion as such is irresponsible. We wish no war with anyone. I hope that my message to you comes across as respectful and truth on my part as I wish no ill will either.

          • Hello Kristin,

            I appreciate the time you’ve taken in leaving you comment and trying to set things straight. Of course I will allow your comments to be openly seen by all because I have nothing to hide. Unfortunately, it’s more than the consideration I have received in the LiveSciFi chat room over the years.

            I’m not sure when you join the team and cannot speak harshly of you. I don’t know you and you may not be aware of some of the things that have occurred over the years. I will however, separately touch base on the points that you are concerned about.

            To start off, I will say that in the beginning Tim and his crew seemed to be very nice and genuinely concerned with what our family had gone through in that house and during certain times since then when paranormal groups went into the house and challenged what was there. During one of his first investigations to the Sallie house, he gave us his cell phone number and told us to get in touch with him should there be any negative activity seen in our own home.

            We watched the investigation from our own home and several hours into the investigation Tony had already endured a few scratches, but we didn’t call. However, when the spontaneous burns, welts and fires began to appeared on his body we grew concerned. I’m sure you can understand why.

            We watched the live footage as Tim answered his cell phone; ultimately our phone call to him, and then completely ignored our plea about the dangers of what he was doing, and the affect it was having on Tony. That was simply irresponsible.

            “To state that we are not honest and we don’t go in to study and reseah is just purely wrong.” —– I have made this sort of statement because there have been many instances where historical information about the house is made in error but stated as fact by Tim and the team. Of all people that should know correct information about the house, are the ones who make statements about it. Unfortunately that has not been the case. Misrepresenting such basic historical information to the public is neglectful.

            “To say that we are dangerous is quite wrong. I would submit that there are people who have gone in and done things to further the malevolent entity there but we aren’t one of them.” —– I would agree that others have done things to further the malevolent activity in the house, but LiveSciFi CANNOT deny they have done the very same thing.

            Fact is, Tim claimed to have the original dibbuk box of which he brought in the house and even gave a little history on. A dybbuk is a restless, usually malicious, spirit believed to be able to haunt and even possess the living. How would bringing this box into the house NOT be considered a malevolent action with the intent to stir up negative activity and coerce a response?

            Either he lied to his viewers when he claimed it was the original dibbuk box, knowing it would not stir up negative reaction, or he intentionally wanted to ramp up the negativity by bringing in a malicious spirit. Why bring in a negative spirit to antagonize the house? So it begs the question, which did he do? Lie to his viewers or bring in a malicious spirit to create negative activity?

            When an individual or team “studies” a location, it is not dissimilar to being a stranger in foreign land. You study, assess and engage with the culture. You don’t enrage, challenge it or intentionally try to piss it off! I’m sure all of the LiveSciFi viewers can attest to seeing Tim, and on many occasions, antagonize the spirits at many of his investigation locations.

            “I’m sorry that you and tony are affected by the visits to the house but that is because you are tied in some way to the house.” —– Yes, unfortunately my husband didn’t suffer enough in the house; he is still tied to it. When spirits in that house are antagonized, my husband ultimately gets the backlash.

            Most teams are respectful of the issues we face and reject anything that would create more suffering for my husband or our family. Tim and some of his staff however, want us to prove that we are attacked in our own home during the provoking instances at the Sallie house.

            This is not information we want to go big and public with, and we don’t feel that we should have to prove this on LiveSciFi in order for Tim to back off. Tony does not want to become a worldwide public Guinea pig again, all under the wrath of a malicious entity. We are private people, so Tony quietly endures the attacks. We don’t want film crews and strangers trampling through our house and our lives again. Surely you can understand this.

            “The current owner is who you should be looking at if you are being affected when people investigate there ask him to stop letting groups thru!” —– The idea of going to the current owner in order to tell him what he cannot do with his house is a ridiculous one. Not only does he not understand or believe in the potential threat that house posses, he is finally making some money in opening the house to the public. I think it’s about time; the money can go towards its maintenance, utilities and taxes, but no one has the right to tell him that he should stop doing that? It is his house.

            It is only with responsible and experienced paranormal individuals who understand and respect the real possibilities and dangers the house presents that we can request a cease and desist and have it honored.

            ” As far as making money and gaining fame, that’s just a low blow coming from you particularity who have a book, a website, do interviews, etc.” —– What I think is a low blow is turning around and selling dolls and other item that the LiveSciFi team has brought it into the house, on eBay as if they were haunted items.

            We have never been associated with this house in order to make money or gain fame. Unfortunately, the fame came more than 20 years ago when my husband was being tortured in the house and we brought in the only people we felt might help us. For the next year and a half he was a test subject and a national spectacle.

            Since then, yes, we have put together a website based on facts and done numerous radio interviews. We put ourselves out there to help others understand the nature and possible dangers of a haunting. If you have listened to any of our radio interviews, you know that we offer our help, support and assistance to anyone who might be going through a similar situation. There is no reason for anyone to feel alone like we did. We don’t do any of it for fame.

            Our book didn’t come out until 14 years later, and mostly because of the requests made by so many individuals. It wasn’t for fame or money, but in making the information within it available, we’ve been contacted by many groups and individuals who thank us for the interior view of our experiences. The book was a way to offer the public first hand and factual information, to reveal all things that the cameras did not. Its subject was our own traumatic experience and we have every right to share it. We did not create the subject matter nor dramatize anything, unlike LiveSciFi has done on several occasions.

            “…yes we have our own style.”—– This style of investigating disregards safety and is harmful to the viewers because it suggests to them that what the they do is reasonable. Those who are serious, and who have knowledge and experience with dark and demonic spirits, avoid this house for good reason. It is dangerous for not only those who cross its threshold, but their friends and family as well.

            “We do what we do and how we do it because it’s a passion and we are compelled to try to get proof from the other side.” —– Is LiveSciFi team so compelled that they would do something at the expense of others? How ethical or reputable is that?

            “Our viewers are with us because they like us and we greatly appreciate them.” —— Your viewers are with you because they don’t know any better; they think what you do is how investigations are run. They don’t know or understand the dangers, they don’t know about safety protocols or how to recognize when something’s gone wrong. They don’t know about paranormal ethics or the fact that others may be in danger; including themselves. They want to be entertained, they want to see something happen. I get it, we’ve all been there. But that is not the reality of true and ethical investigation.

            “There is not and never been to my knowledge an “internet war” between us and you labeling a discussion as such is irresponsible.” —– I do not know of what our discussion you are referring to. I speak of an “internal war” because that’s how I felt. Lines were crossed by LiveScIFi and our trust was trampled on. My husband, our children and our home were all put in danger without regard to suffering or damage. This has been the case several times during the LiveSciFi investigations. To me that is personal and an act of war.

            Another fact is that there were indeed words exchanged via Facebook posts several years ago when this all began. In fact, it started when I was personally banned from the LiveSciFi chat room during an investigation after simply saying hello. It wasn’t me that started it either. It was someone in the chat room who notice the action and asked about it on Facebook. It escalated from there.

            Another family member and two other friends of ours were also banned. The banishment was not done accidentally to 3 people as claimed. It was intentional. Certain people knew they had crossed the line with us and felt we might retaliate publicly in their chat room. To me, being banned was another act of war. I did nothing to provoke it.

            If you really think about it, who in their right mind wouldn’t want to have the previous resident’s of the house, or others with information on the house, available in their chat room during an investigation? Wouldn’t it be better to have them as a welcomed guests, to answer questions provide information and support the investigation? That’s what I had attempted to do. Had I said anything negative, they certainly would have had the right to ban me then.

            We’ve watched the live feed from investigations. We know the things that have been done and the things that have been claimed. For instance, claiming there was a bloody shirt found in the house and then telling viewers was going to be analyzed; it was all false. Our own investigations of the Sallie house, with both a Kansas City and a Chicago paranormal team, ventured into every nook and cranny of the attic, living space and a basement. We uncovered several things and if there was a bloody shirt, as claimed by Tim, we would have already uncovered it. Furthermore, the shirt was never analyzed as Tim told everyone he was going to do. All of that was deception for the entertainment value of viewers; it was not serious investigating.

            Forgive me, I am a blunt and honest person. My integrity is strong and I don’t play games or make promises I don’t intend to keep. My only quest has been to learn about the paranormal via further research, study and investigation so as to help others understand that they too can survive situations similar to that of our own. I’m sure I take offense easily when it comes to someone misrepresenting the facts of our case, the history of the house or when they don’t maintain the same ethical standards as I do.

            I appreciate your efforts to stand by your paranormal group, and I hold no animosity towards you, especially if you were unaware of any of the above situations. However, after the above treatment I cannot withhold a level of disdain for certain individuals of LiveSciFi. I can only judge and offer comments based on the facts and my personal experiences; this is exactly what I have done when someone inquires.

            You could say I feel compelled to give people the facts and warn them away from any negative or potentially dangerous situations when it comes to dealing with that house.

            I sincerely thank you for sharing your feelings here.

            ~ Debra

          • Debra, I thank you for allowing my response to remain on your chat (some would’ve just removed it) I also appreciate your response to me. I also liked how you took my response section by section so we can discuss particular points. I’m super busy today and tomorrow but wanted to let you know I will have time to sit down, longer than this, lol and respond. I am interested in many points you made in response. I also would ask that we keep our conversations, as we have so far, truthful and friendly. This way I feel we will hear each other’s points and be able to hopefully help anyone else reading our discussion. No war between you and I. Agreed? I’ll post soon in response to yours. Thank you.

          • Hello again Kristin,

            I have no problem keeping our conversations honest, friendly and respectful. I do however feel that any further conversation should be between you and I on a personal level. Further details from my end of the experiences with LiveSciFi are not a good, and like I said I do not, and never have wanted to be in any type of Internet drama.

            I feel that you and I can keep it clean, truthful and respectful and I’ve also learned from the past. When the situation ways LiveSciFi I was brought up in the forum that this site had, before the reorganization I am in the process of, certain people took it all out into a more public eye (Facebook) and that really ugly about it. Public and personal attacks are not good for my husband and I, nor for anyone on the LiveSciFi by team.

            For that reason I will not discuss any of this further in a public forum. Should you feel the need to discuss anything further I would be more than happy to do so via email.

            Most sincerely,
            ~ Debra

      • Is it possible for it to follow you somewhere else?! I visited the house a few months back and ever since the same type of stuff started happening at my place in canada what should i do?!

        • Hi Alex,

          Yes, it is most certainly possible for it to follow you, and it will go anywhere with you. The only weapon we seem to have that works well is our faith in God. Now I’m not trying to get on a band stand to preach to you or anyone else, and I do not know if you are religious or what religion you faith may be based in, but I would suggest to you that you strengthen you faith and relationship with God.

          Some put a lot of faith in crystals, indian Gods, Reiki energy, etc. Where ever your belief lies is where you need to build a strong layer of protection.

          As I mentioned in an other post, I would be happy to share some of the prayer we use in our own daily battle against the dark forces that intrude upon our lives. Just contact me via Debra@TheSallieHouse.com

          We have also recently started a recovery group called Survivors of the Dark, and you can din us on Facebook. You might find it helpful.

          ~Debra

    • How many do you believe haunt the sallie house ?? Also , many people go to check out the sallie house have they ever gotten hurt?!

      • Hi Haylee,

        It hard to tell how many entities are in the house now. So many people, investigators have gone in and invited other spirits to enter.

        As far as getting hurt, I believe that several have claimed to have been scratched, but nothing worse than that or life threatening.

        ~Debra

    • There Was A Certain Procedure Being Done To Sallie, She Was Sick & I Guess Something Went Wrong… Theres A Documentary On YouTube That Shows Part Of What Happened But It Wasn’t Clear… Just Look Up “The Sallie House” On YouTube & It Should Show Up

  10. My name is Aiden and I was wondering if my wife and I could investigate the Sallie House?

    • Hi Aiden,

      It’s good to hear from you. I would direct you to the following an investigators story , Getting into the Sallie House

      Be extremely careful if you do go into this house. I can’t stress this enough!

      ~Debra

      • Hi Debra,

        I’m Currently A High School Student But I Constantly Reread These Stories About This House. Eventually I Plan On Investigating Paranormal Activities. I Was Wondering How I Would Be Able To Go See The House & What Type Of Precautions I Need To Take Before I Do So.. Please Let Me Know Any Information. Also I Have An Assignment For A Class. It Is To Interview Any Person Of My Choice & Find Out About What They Do & Their Previous Experiences In Life. Maybe There’s Some Way We Could Contact Each Other If You Have The Time, I’d Love To Interview You About This Story. Hopefully I’ll Get A Response Back Soon.

        Thank You So Much

        • Hello Michelle,

          For now I would build on your interests in the paranormal, Read everything that is put out there on equipment and on the local groups in your area. Most groups now have a Facebook page and you can get a feel for their beliefs and ethics. When the time comes join a group that you feel matches your feelings and ethics. Learn all you can at that point. You will likely change groups over the course of time until you find one that you really like.

          As far as going to the house I would NOT suggest you, or anyone else, goes to the house. With that said I would build you faith and relationship with God so that he will be there when needed if you happen to come across an extreme location like the Sallie House. It is only our faith in God that got us thru living in that house and has kept us together in the aftermath of that haunting.

          ~Ddebra

  11. Hey, Debra and Tony! Not sure if you remember me or not. I was posting on the old message board that used to be on this site. Looked like the site was down for a while. Glad to see it’s back up.

    My first cat Chessie still comes around. I actually saw him last Sunday sitting on my kitchen table. I also made a third trip down to the abandoned town of Moonville back in October. Had some interesting experiences on this trip which I’ll be detailing in a YouTube documentary that I’m working on.

    • Yes, i do remember you an especially the interaction you have had with your cats. Glad to hear Chessie is still around.

      And yes this site was down for a little while during the transition. I am still reorganizing and will be for a long time to come it seems. It’s a slow process when you wonder what the right way.

      It was good to hear from you again.
      ~ Debra

    • Dear Mr Pickman and Mrs. Pickman,
      I am A huge fan of Paranormal witness and was intrigued by your story. I just read the story behind the house and it was interesting. Thank you very much for telling your story while at the house

      • You are so very welcome Connor. Please be aware that any made for television event has a bit of distortion in it. It does not necessarily reflect first hand experiences as they happened. With that said, Paranormal Witness did do a good job in reflecting how dangerous this house can be.

        Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment.

        ~Debra

  12. Hi Mrs. Pickman,
    I am doing a research paper on paranormal activity for my sophomore paper. I have seen Sallie’s hauntings on one of my favorite paranormal documentary shows “A Haunting” and I was wondering if you could possibly provide any information. I am not positive if the show had showcased all the information correctly or if they had added some events that did not occur. Were the scratches on your husbands back sever? I had read on some articles that the scratches were not felt and hardly bled, and some of them stated the exact opposite. Did Sallie and the older spirit do any harm to you or your child? I would really appreciate if you could help me out. :)
    Sincerely,
    Brandy Andrews

    • The television shows often embellish the activity that occur. The also have to stuff a lot of information in a short time span, so in a big way it gets really distorted.

      Yes Tony’s scratches were rather sever at times. He usually did not feel them when they occurred, usually they bled a little, some of the deeper ones bled a lot.

      I sensed sally at times, but it was only by a distinct sense of cold air around me. I can’t be sure that my infant son did not have experiences of his own. He was not able to take yet. We left the house and he was only about 16 months old. I know there were sighs that led us to believe he had had some sort of frightening experience, but he never showed physical signs (scratches etc…) Call is a parent’s intuition.

      Good luck on your paper.
      ~D

      • Hi,
        Just wondering if your story on the show ‘paranormal witness’ is embellished too or if it even presents things that never even happened. I’m a believer but I always want to know the truth about hauntings. I hate it when shows embellish for ratings. It just gives skeptics more fuel.
        Thanks!

        • Hi Sharmayne,

          I’m glad you asked. Paranormal Witness, like many other television shows about the paranormal takes creative liberty in telling the story the way they understand it best. Tony and I were caught off guard by the whole “harpy” thing. We had never heard of it to tell you the truth. Unfortunately we never allowed any creative input on these television shows.

          I think the producers felt there was a connection between the apparition of the old woman and the black bird that appeared on her hand as it came towards Tony.

          The rest of the show was pretty much on point.

          ~D

  13. Hi Debra,

    I’ve watched many paranormal documentaries and have to say that your experiences of living in the Sallie House was one of the most intriguing. I’m a religious Jew who lives in Israel, but have had a very strong pull to the spiritual since being a young child and I’m very sensitive to these things. I believe that you and Tony are too, which is why you were both so much more aware of the activity than previous tenants (at least two of which have said on tape that they experienced things). Watching documentaries about the Sallie House seems to trigger something for me, even though I live in Jerusalem and it wasn’t nice. I felt like something was trying to communicate with me and I’m sure others have felt the same from long distances. I don’t know how you stayed in that house for so long! I have a feeling that the owner of the house has had more unusual experiences than he has let on.

    I have one question. Surely the neighbors experience the entities from the home as well?

    • Hi Yoel,

      The house reaches out to many people and draws unsuspecting people into its web. It’s definitely a place to stay away from. Most of the activity centered around Tony and I did not understand how much was going on. It’s a very bad house. Yes people have been drawn to this house from long distances and I’m glad it’s too far away from miles because those who live closer are actually able to visit which is a danger in itself.
      Those who are sensitive seem to be drawn in on the second level please put up any block see you use consider that realizing it what resides in this house can easily get into your head and wreck havoc in your life.
      The owner does not enter the house unless absolutely necessary. Any overnight stays or investigations are currently being run by the Chamber of Commerce. The owner has had experiences and doesn’t talk about them often.
      It doesn’t seem the neighbors are experiencing activities. When we lived there however, the neighbors did see the nursery light on often. Interesting enough we were not using the nursery room at that time.

      ~D

      • Hi Debra,

        Thank you for your response. When I have felt this felt it gave me a really sick feeling and stay away from it and have no desire to visit the house where it seems to be strongest and very attached. I’ve been watching the Dead Files which seems to focus on a lot of haunting like your own. One of the episodes caught my attention as it featured a house built on native American land and it was the only episode in which the Psychic, Amy, told the family living there that the land was uninhabitable and they should just leave. She said that the native Americans were aware that there was something wrong with that area of land and left it alone, but they were forced off by European settlers who subsequently built there. I know that on one or two occasions I’ve read that people have seen a native American presence at the Sallie House and I wonder how that affects the land and why the very specific spot where that house is and not half a dozen on the block.

        Best regards
        Yoel

        • Hello Yoel,

          I did see that episode of Dead File you are referring to. ony and I did work with Amy several years ago. She didn’t state that she thought the house was uninhabitable, but within the research and development work we were doing at the house at that time, she did state that there was an inhuman energy that dwelled in the basement.

          In the research of one investigative group it was found that the land the Sallie house sits on is “tainted” land according to the indians. It’s said that they would avoid that land, even though it was on the rivers edge, they would go around it.

          It does beg the question of why some of the houses around it are not affected in the same way.

          ~Debra

          • Hi Debra,

            l wanted to leave another reply. You mention ‘inhuman energy’. I’ve discovered recently quite a few reports of ‘shadow men’ being considered to be extraterrestrial and not merely a disembodied spirit or being that we know from life or from religion and culture’s. I’ve seen a couple of paranormal investigations where the victim claims to have seen a shadow man with red eyes. 7 years ago I lived with a couple of friends, one of whom said she woke up to see an alien like creature next to her bed with red eyes. The whole idea that there are ghost like beings in haunting’s that are extraterrestrial is a barely explored field. I also had something interesting happen to me last Friday whilst I was at a friends house. He and other guests were playing a game following a meal and I sat alone to rest. Whilst I was sat there I heard this peculiar grumble that emanated midair, a little out from my chest and didn’t know what to make of it.

            Best wishes
            Yoel

          • It’s been said that shadow people are “watcher” here to observe and report”. I know they are even in our current home. We have never been aware of those with red eye other then by others reporting it.I really have no input on it because we have had no circumstance in which they have been observed by us.

            Aliens surely can’t be ruled out, and your right, this possibility has yet to be explored by anyone.

            Was it a ouija board game? Was your mind thinking into a specific theory about hauntings or the supernatural? if so it could have been a warning that you were getting to close to the truth. I would have to know more about the situation and the activities taking place at the time, as well as how much you are involved in the paranormal what direction , in order to think more on this and give you a better answer.

            ~D

          • Hi Debra,

            I tried to respond earlier, but I don’t think my post went through, so if there is two posts, please feel free to delete this one. None of us dabble in the occult or do Ouija boards, crystals, tarot cards or the like. It was Shabbat eve, following lunch and they were playing the harmless board game, Settlers of Catan. I was tired and decided to sit it out. I’m religious, so pray three times a day, twice in a Synagogue and once at home. I was, in the past, very much into spirituality and conspiracy theories and did some past life work for a couple of years up to 2005/6. I don’t think I was thinking of anything much when I heard the sound, though I do watch paranormal documentaries. I’m very intuitive with people and have had spiritual experiences before, all but one of them were harmless. I’m also epileptic and I’m careful to try and distinguish between that and other stuff.

            Best regards
            Yoel

          • Would like to add, that sometimes when looking into paranormal stuff, I “connect” with the story and I’m not sure why. I get a huge tingling sensation across my head and I feel incredibly light. I got this with the Sallie House story and several others.

          • Hi Joel,

            Interesting story

            You might have an ability that has been trying to surface. IT’s been said that we all have it, we just aren’t aware of it.

            I’m not sure if that brings you comfort or not. I do thank you for sharing

            ~D

      • hey Debra is it true that when you wore on the show sightings that the rose that has not been touched was burned by “sally” the spirit in the house while u wore grabbing the drawing the pick that tony drew

  14. Hi Debra,
    I truly , I MEAN TRULY, love your website. It is” AWESOME”. I am a strange person they tell me as I don’t watch horror movies or evil things at all , however I do believe in spirits. I have never had a bad spirit to visit me . My husband died of a massive heart attack in 2008, and he comes and visits quite a bit . He always would put his hand on my shoulders and just it across as he walked by while he was living , and he does it now in spirits . I always gets this cool breeze before it happens now . But it is “SURREAL”.

    Would I like for this to STOP ? No. Some people say it’s my mind going bad . My mind is still good. I don’t imagine this ,if I did I wonder why I have to pick up my dish cloth from the floor when I know I draped it over the dish drainer. This was ” My husband’s Pet Peeve ” he thought a clean one had to be got out every day .

    Nice work on your site and I got to go and read more . I am new to WA, and actually just getting started, I signed up and three days later had a truck to back over me and ram me into the back of a semi trailer and the DOT bar caught me in the left leg and then while recouping from that surgery I had a heart attack. Just getting home now but I lost 3 weeks of training . Having to learn the hard way as my ability to ask questions in the training phases has gone . But I will get it built up .
    Brenda

    • Hi Brenda,

      There is no rush in the WA training, you will do just fine. Maybe a little reviewing of each lesson and then your of and running again.

      II think it’s sweet tat your late husband is there with you, and it’s very clear to me that he is by what you describe. If you want him to go, you need to tell him. From the bottom of your heart and soul, tell him you will be allright and you will meet him again later. You and he need to move on in the directions that are intened for you.

      Glad you are enjoying wat this site has to offer, I hope I can get more material posted here soon. I want to start posting more details of our own experiences. So keep a watch out for it soon.

      Best wishes to you,
      ~Debra

  15. Hi, Have seen you guys on a few different shows and I am curious at to who actually owns the house now.
    Thanks, Brian

    • Hi Brian,

      Yes, we have been on man shows. LOL and about this time of year you will likely see more of us.

      The owner of the house is Les Smith and he has owned the house for about 6 months before we moved in. That was December 31st 1992. I would caution everyone, never move on New Years Eve. Everyone has plans and can’t help you. LOL Lesson learned

      ~D

  16. Hello debra…

    I have had my own fair share of things happening in many houses I have lived in starting since one as a little girl.
    My first occurance was when one as around the age of 5. We lived in a small town in indiana… A graveyard was just across the street in a neighbors back yard… Every night I would see a light walking back and forth and it would stop and stare at me as I watched from my window it never bothered me much just seemed lost… Then a few years back we moved to ky. And in my room one night I woke up because once it something crawling on me. When I opened my eyes there was dozens of spiders crawling on me I screamed and when help ran in they vanished…. A year later my little sister moved into my old room and I moved out with my fiance and my growing family. My sister called me one night Bering me home crying(my mom was away) so I go home she shows me the neclace that never leaves her neck in a tables mess on the floor. Her jewelry box scattered on the ground and the closet door wide open and we felt like someone was watching. I walked into the the closet and it seemed at ease. I moved her to a different room in the house and no one touches that room… I recently moved to another house with my husband and 2 children and during the night I hear a woman yelling and some nights a man fighting with her… I’m not all that worried because they haven’t harmed anyone…. But I was watching your story and couldn’t help but wander if the reason tony was getting hurt was a mad entitee had connected it’s self to him and that’s why he was feeling angry and violent and was always the pinpoint of pain or activity… Just a thought.

    • Hello Laura,

      Thank you for sharing your stories. It seems as long as you don’t interact with them and respect their space, they won’t harm you. That is a good thing.

      As far as your thoughts on Tony getting hurt, I think you are right. A negative energy did attach itself to him and cause anger and cause pain.

      ~D

  17. Hi Debra,
    Love the look of your website. What do you mean when you said that you used Bootstrap Canvas WP? Is it a plugin? What Theme did you use?
    As for the article I have to say that as a Christian I don’t believe in ghosts in the traditional sense. I do believe that people are seeing spirits of what they believe to be departed loved ones or departed souls who used to live in the building. However I don’t believe that they are seeing the actual spirits of these people. The Bible says that it is appointed to man to die once and then he must face the judgement seat of Christ. Therefore what are these people seeing? They are seeing evil spirits who are posing at dead people in order to fool people into thinking that they are seeing the departed spirit of the person who used to live in the building. The Bible says that the Devil is a liar and the father of lies and this is one of the ways that he is deceiving people into believing that there is no heaven or hell. Or that departed souls can stay around to resolve some unfinished problem or to avenge their death.

    I know that I have made a VERY unpopular comment. I hope it will be given the same consideration as all the previous ones that have been made.

    • That is the name of the WordPress theme I use.

      In some cases (many more than paranormal investigators realize sometimes) you are exactly right, evil presenting themselves in a likeness of a loved one will do so to gain trust and acceptance so that they can influence them, do them harm or wreck havoc upon them and in their life.
      My husband has seen this first hand when his mother died. When he did not accept her open arms and go to her, it turned into a hideous creature; one I’m sure was the likeness of evil.
      We have worked with prayer and called on God and his angels multiple times. We know there is a significant difference. That said, we also know the devil is a good liar and manipulator and people can sometimes be taken in by what they believe is good energy and spirit. The work that we do is very dangerous for not just ourselves, but also for our families and loved omes if we don’t know what we are doing or fail to include prayer for God’s protection.

      Some people don’t believe the devil or evil spirits move among us, but save it to say that if they will acknowledge that there are angels that have intervened and appear among us at times, there must be balance in the world which means that we must realize that there is evil or demons among us as well.

      With that said, consider this question: if prayer and the bible reference “the Holy spirit”, doesn’t this suggest that there is more than one spirit that can be referenced. I say this because if not, prayers and the Bible would reference the holy spirit as “spirit” ( as in the one and only). Hence, Father, son and Holy Ghost. It would stand to reason that making the designation that the ghost is holy, separates it from others, giving credence that others exist but the one we are speaking about is the “Holy” spirit?

      Just thoughts to consider from one Christian to another .

      I thank you for sharing your thoughts,
      ~D

  18. Hi,
    What an amazing post…I have only read this one page…but after my comment I will be spending my time reading the rest!

    Way back in 1992 when I first left University and began teaching I moved to a small town in NZ just outside of Timaru and had a beautiful cottage overlooking the sea.

    In that cottage we also had a similar phenomenon, but it was located only in one room. A tiny small guest bedroom. When anyone slept in that room they would be visited by the most horrendous smell, which steadily grew worse and worse. If that didn’t force anyone out them similarly objects would begin to be moved and then thrown. Luckily noone was physically harmed.

    The odd thing was when I went into the room and the smell would appear I would sit on the bed and talk to George, telling him it was OK and that we were friends and sending universal light to guide him home…the smell would disappear but I would see the physical imprint on my arm which appeared to be the same as when someone rests their hand on your skin.

    I have no idea why, but I don’t believe he was earthbound, but I think he still maintained an attraction and firm attachment to the house and was a protector.

    He loved children, and would never frighten them (so he definitely was trying to spook the adults). A friend of mine had a 3 year old daughter at the time and as soon as she arrived she would head straight to the bedroom to “play with George”…and we never told her “his” name.

    • What an awesome story Jason,

      Sounds like a gradfatherly type. Does anyone still live in the house? Have trouble with that same room?

      I thank you very much for sharing. Not all haunting are bad. With that said however, I would still be wary that what presented was not what it seemed.

      I appolojize, but after our experiences I am often very wary of people getting to close or comfortable with spirits. Children are much easier to convince that what they are seeing or feeling is a good presence so they are more likely to have “friendships with them. Children are also more prone with the ability to see them (or what they present).

      Was any history done on the house, was there actually a George connected to the house? A reason you called him George? Perhaps you are somewhat sensitive?

      Anyway, thank you for sharing,

      ~D

  19. Hi Debra
    Just wanted to say after watching the paranormal witness program about the sallie house here in Sydney Australia I was freaked out! Had my own dealings with spirits during the mid ninties and was only ever attacked once when I shot at one with a rifle but nothing like what tony received!

  20. Hi Debra. I submitted a comment asking bout tearing down the house and placing a blessing on the house. One thing that is interesting to me is why does the owner of the house allow it to stand? I have seen paranormal groups remove items that were demonic and place them in the ground and place the blessing on them. The ghost adventure has a similar house in Indiana .very demonic. I firmly believe the owner needs to tear it down and prevent any further harm or skepticism. Thanks for allowing us to comment

    • Hi Rebecca,

      He really doesn’t believe in the demonic nature of the situation. He didn’t believe us about the activity we were having when we lived there, but changed his tune after we moved out and while doing some work on the house had some paranormal activity himself (on multiple occasions)

      I heard that in an interview, many years ago, I said he felt like the protector of the house”. Not sure what that means, but it doesn’t sound good when you consider the very nature of what is in the house. He may be experiencing the negative part of the house and not even realize it.

      Thanks for the thoughts and comments,
      ~D

    • Not all ghosts haunt houses specifically. Some haunt the land that the house sits on. Some are attached to objects like trinkets , dolls, etc.. Others attach themselves to one particular person or family. Much like living human beings each ghost/haunting is unique.

      • Hi Rhonda,

        You are absolutely right. We believe that what is there at the house is actually attached to the land. One investigation group claims historical documentation that the Indians avoided that area of land and called it tainted.

        I cannot confirm or deny those claims, but if correct it would speak loudly of how negatively they felt about the land. Being so close to the river it would have been a safe high ground for encampment; of which they would give up if it was tainted. I also don’t know how much of an area they considered tainted.

        ~D

  21. I know it is not recommended for anyone to go inside this house, but is it at all possible for us to go inside and investigate without facing any legal issues?

  22. Emily Jane Stewart

    Hey! I’m new to this website thing… but The Sallie House is amazing in a terrifying kinda way

  23. Hello, I have watched the paranormal witness show about your story, I have been in a similar situation as you have but I was younger and my experience wasn’t as bad but I believe in ghosts. My question is can people go inside the house to look around? And who owns the Sallie House? Thank you.

    • Hi Carrie,

      Les Smith has owned the house since we rented it from him over 20 years ago. They let people in for self guide tours around Halloween. I hear it pretty lame, a sentence or two on a piece of paper that hangs on the door of each room and you can’t go into the basement. I wouldn’t want to see anyone go into that house. It’s very dangerous.

      ~D

  24. I would like to come and investgate the house myself. Is this possible?

    • Jim, we don’t advocate for anyone to go into the house.

      ~D

      • I just used a voice box app and I had never heard of the Sallie house or the voice box inventer but it said Frank was at home with sally. Now that I’ve looked all this stuff up online I am totally freaked out. It asked for the terms we were to engage on or something to that effect and when I said I love Jesus my phone shook and the word rage came up. Should I be concerned?

        • Hi Steve,

          My Apologies for hot getting back to you sooner. I found your writing about your interaction with the ghost box rather interesting.

          Frank is indeed the inventor of the ghost box and I worked with his original prototype at the Sallie house years ago.

          This house and the entities are known for misguiding and manipulating people.

          Also we could not find any historical documentation on a Sallie. we are sure that this little girl was presented to us by the evils forces that exist in the house to gain our acceptance and ultimate control.

          This leads me to believe that the ghost box, or the spirits coming through, were lying.

          I think it was opposed to your terms and I would stand by them by the grace of God.
          ~D

    • I know its not really recommended, however i grew up around a lot of paranormal activity all my life and at 40,im still experiencing things at my new house in KY. I am very interested in this house and would. Like to investigate myself if at all possible Without incurring any legal issues. If you would plz contact me with details od appreciate it. Tier1tacticalsolutions@gmail.com. Thks Debra

  25. I am just learning of this house. I caught the story on paranormal witness this afternoon. And since its based on a true story, I am very intregued with it. I have some questions that I would rather not put on public record so if you have some time and dont mind, Id love to email back and forth with you or even your husband. Maybe I can get some answers as well. Thanks!!

  26. Its like you read my mind! You appear to know so much about
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    this is magnificent blog. A great read. I will certainly be back.

    • Hi Joven,

      I realize it can be a dry read and eventually I would like to get images in. My main concern at this time is returning 200+ pages of detailed information to viewers. I am also looking into getting some sort of image gallery together for viewing more than 240 pictures. Hope to also be able to offer more than 100 EVP files and radio interviews.

      ~D

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  28. Has anyone ever wanted to tear down the house take the boards.nails.glass and all contents put into a hole on the land itself andplace a blessing over it. Burning doesn’t work

    • Hi Rebecca,

      I know many have suggested to burn it to the ground. Whatever is there is tied to the land, so not so sure if it would help except to stop people from going into the house. Unfortunately we have no cotrol over that b/c we have never owned it.

      ~D

  29. Hello :)
    My question is in regards to the lady who supposedly did sacrifices in the basement. When did she live in the house ( specific years ) in relation to when you lived there. Was it before or after? Also, is anything known about her….. name, age, whatever happened to her after she left/moved out of the house?

    Am I correct in thinking things were weird before she was ever there…. before the pentagram was drawn on the basement floor? Or…. is she most likely the one that started all this?

    • Hi Nicole,

      Not sure there were sacrifices in the house. I know there was some level of witchcraft practiced. This took place about 2 or 3 years after we moved out. She still lives somewhere in town.

      Our experience while living in the house took place well before any pentagram. I think she may have opened up the house to more bad energy and entotoes.

      ~D

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  32. it sounds like the house is really possesed with demons but maybe they are frightened spirits that need help to move on to the other world but you will have to gain their trust

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    • Hi,

      We do not offer guest blogs at this time unless it is in regards to experiences with or in the Sallie House, of which this website is dedicated to. Although there are some articles here regarding investigating, equipment and the like, the main focus is the house and those who want to share information about it. Should you have an article you think relevant, please feel free to check out this link and then submit it to evidence@thesalliehouse.com so that it gets to the right person for evaluation.

      ~D

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      We do not offer guest blogs at this time unless it is in regards to experiences with or in the Sallie House, of which this website is solely dedicated to. Although there are some articles here regarding investigating, equipment and the like, the main focus is the house and those who want to share information about it. Should you have an article you think relevant, please feel free to check out this link and then submit it to evidence@thesalliehouse.com so that it gets to the right person for evaluation.

      ~D

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  40. Hello, I have a question here. Does any of you ever try to remove the demon entities from the sallie house? or only ghost hunting investigation?

    Olga

    • Hello Olga,

      To answer both of your questions, yes there have been 2 demonologists in the house after we moved from it and 3-4 that wil not attempt entering under any circumstances/ Speaking with Lorraine Warren my husband was told not to go back to the house, because it had more demons than any other location she knew of.

      We do not own the house and never did, and I caution you to protect yourself to the highest if you look to a closer understanding and look into the house.

      Blessing,
      ~Debra

      • Hi Debra,
        Thank you for your respond. I was wondering whether there are some house pictures in this website??
        Because i do sense that there is a portal need to be closed. This portal shouldnt be opened. But somehow, the portal has been opened for such a long time.
        I am a Medium and im not from the US. I am originally from Indonesia and i saw the documentary tv show about this house which you and your husband was in that tv shows.

        There are about 6 or 7 demons in the house. But the main character is this demon called “Sallie”. Lets say Sallie is the boss there and the rest of the demons are just HIS EMPLOYEES. I would say HIS because the real image of Sallie ( the demon ) is a male. This Sallie appeared in this house because this portal is not even closed. His bring the employees with him. I wont call myself a Medium, but i called myself a LIGHT WARRIOR. I am someone who fight with negative entities and demonic entities. I am not famous at all, unlike Lorraine Warren She is Famous. but im not because i dont advertise my work, usually people know me from mouth to mouth.
        I dont have the EVP or whatsoever because i am connecting to the universe straight away and i know that some spirits and some demons are hiding somewhere inside the house even someone already remove them. Demons are very very smart, they can hide and pretend they are gone so that Mediums wont even see it.
        I wont called myself a demonologist too :)
        But i do know how to remove them for good.
        Do you know the owner of the house that i can contact with? Because when i travel to the US, i would like to visit this Sallie house.

        By the way, the basement if the house has a basement, thats where the portal is…
        Blessings for you and your family
        Olga

        • Hi Olga,

          I agree with much of what you have said. I am in the process of re-structuring the website and unfortunately I don’t have many photos up and ythe gallery is gone. It a huge site and I am working on things as fast as I can b/c I know many people come to read and gain knowledge of the site. You mighnt find this link helpful.

          Please checki back as I will continually have more information available.

          ~D

          • Hi Debra
            Actually your website it does helpful for me. Because i would like to gain more knowledge. I dont have any team at all. Im working alone as a demonologist, Medium and Light Warrior. Perhaps next year i would love to visit this house and have a look around.
            The basement i get very strong sense there. so when im there, would you mind to take me look around the house? or who i must contact with about visiting the house?

            Thank you and Blessings
            Olga

          • Hi Olga,

            Unfortunately Tony and I don’t really like going to the house. Our last visit was Aug of 2007, until we recently went in with the Ghost Adventures Team last year.

            We do not support anyone going into the house because of the dangers that are present. Getting a hold of the owner (not us) is the only way into the house.If you still have plans next year to visit, we’ll see what we can do.

            ~D

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      ~D

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  49. who lives in the house now and have they had any experiences

  50. who lives in the house now?

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      ~D

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